Menus disappear in Safari browser with fixMozillaZIndex=true

Poster: ToTheWeb
Dated: Thursday March 2 2006 - 21:35:29 GMT

I have implemented (and licensed) Milonic V 5.732 on the site at http://totheweb.com. Everything works great except in Mac Safari there is a conflict with the Flash file on the site homepage: the menu items disappear when they are located on top of the Flash area.

I have searched this forum for posts on this topic and find that it is important to use fixMozillaZIndex=true; in menudata.js and I have done that, but the problem persists. Others have said to use <param name="WMode" value="Transparent"> in the Flash object and I've done that also, problem persists.

Any other suggestions? Or is this just something we have to live with?

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Poster: Migru
Dated: Thursday March 2 2006 - 21:38:48 GMT

Hi

study this sample, hope it helps

http://www.milonic.com/menusample14.php

Michael

same problem at www.bluestar-software.co.uk using Safari

Poster: ToTheWeb
Dated: Thursday March 2 2006 - 22:00:50 GMT

Michael, thank you. When I view http://www.bluestar-software.co.uk/ in Mac Safari I see the same problem as I described in my first post.

The only significant difference I could see between your menudata.js file and mine is that you set:

with(milonic=new menuname("Main Menu")){
alwaysvisible=1;

instead of to zero, which is the default. But of course I don't want to make that particular menu visible, I only want my own menus to display.

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Poster: Migru
Dated: Thursday March 2 2006 - 22:13:35 GMT

Hi

suggestion is to make use of the "divhider module", you find here:

http://www.milonic.com/menumodules.php


Michael

Poster: ToTheWeb
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 17:02:36 GMT

Michael, thanks for the link to the "divhider module". I viewed the script shown at http://www.milonic.com/divhider.js

I am not a scripting expert, so I do not fully understand how to implement this. What changes do I need to make to the page at http://totheweb.com to make this script work? Should I add divhider.js to the HEAD tag, or can I place it in my /scripts/ directory?

Thanks.

Poster: Migru
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 17:49:21 GMT

Hi

I´ve not really made use of it. But,
if you have a look at the menusample14

http://www.milonic.com/menusample14.php (Source code)

the situation there is as follows:
Just before the referenced form
is
put in operation, the diivhider.js is called.


And if you look at this file it shows the code




where "Samples" is the name of a submenu, formdiv1 the id or name of the object to hide and "milonic" too is the name of a submenu.


That is the way how it seems to works.

Michael

menu dropdowns hide behind flash objects

Poster: silknet01
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 19:07:57 GMT

I don't know if this is related to this issue here or not but throught it sounded similar enough.

I recently upgraded from 5.04 to the latest version. Ever since then in non-IE browsers, dropdown menu items are hidden whereever a flash object (i.e. a flash banner ad) appears below the horizontal menu. It worked fine before the upgrade from 5.04.

I've also had users complain that our site is now significantly slower as a result of the menu upgrade. I had users go to identical pages one with and one without the menu and was able to determine the menu was the problem. I've backed out of the upgrade as a result.

Poster: Migru
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 21:29:45 GMT

Hi silknet01

my main problem is, I´m neither using SAFARI nor MAC and that is why for me it is rather difficult to reproduce or comprehend those problems- or even understand some of them. When I start standard browsers like FF or IE, in a Windows environment, those links given above demonstrate an excellent working page with an excellent working menu. ..........

If you are complaining, and operating your menu based on a prof. license, then I feel you should contact Milonic (see main menu), but one fact - please is definite, this is not the place for complaints, as this is a forum from users for users - so its difficult for a user - if another user is complaining. I´m sorry, but nobody here is the correct consignee for a complaint.

Michael

Poster: ToTheWeb
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 22:47:29 GMT

Migru, as the person who started this thread, I want to make clear that I am not "complaining", I am merely asking for assistance from other users who are quite likely to have encountered the same problem I have: menus disappearing when they load over a Flash area in the Mac Safari browser.

Asking for assistance does not equal "complaining".

Thanks to all who have replied offering ideas and assistance,

Barry Brisco

Poster: silknet01
Dated: Monday March 6 2006 - 22:55:45 GMT

FYI - With regard to the menu overlapping issue I mentioned fixMozillaZIndex=true did the trick.

Poster: Migru
Dated: Tuesday March 7 2006 - 0:16:51 GMT

Hi Barry

yes of course, but what I wrote on "complaining" wasn´t certainly meant for you. I like to assist wherever its possible and whenever I find time to do so.
In this case it would be much better for me to have a Mac and the said Safari browser, but I´m sorry both I don´t have.
Maybe someone else has an additional suggestion to contribute to this ?
Are you sure, fixMozillaZIndex=true; in your case didn´t help?

Michael

Poster: ToTheWeb
Dated: Tuesday March 7 2006 - 14:49:23 GMT

Migru, thanks, I have tried fixMozillaZIndex=true; and it does not solve the problem in Mac Safari.

So yesterday morning I sent an email to Milonic Support, and have already received a reply: great service! They suggested adding:
<param name="WMode" value="opaque">

I have implemented that but the problem persists in Safari. I have also tried:
<param name="WMode" value="transparent">
without success.

Perhaps the problem is that I am using a script to detect if the user has Flash installed when they attempt to view my homepage at http://totheweb.com/index.html
That page contains this script call:
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript" src="scripts/display_image.js"></script>

and here is the script (including the suggested addition from Milonic Support):

if (flash.installed) {
// do Flash stuff

document.write('<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0" width="761" height="169">');
document.write('<param name="movie" value="images/flash/home.swf">');
document.write('<param name=quality value=high>');
document.write('<param name="WMode" value="opaque">');
document.write('<embed src="images/flash/home.swf" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="761" height="169"></embed>');
document.write('</object>');
} else {
// Flash is NOT installed. Do something else.
document.write('<img src="images/home/no_flash.jpg" width="761" height="169">');
}