Extra Space created by Menu - PLS help!

Poster: tepidarium
Dated: Wednesday July 14 2004 - 20:12:41 BST

Hi All,

Ok here's the situation:

In Netscape 6.1 (on windows - don't have mac to test) my table bound milonic menu creates an extra space above the table in which it is contained. This ruins my design. Here's the caveat -this only happens if the DTD is declared as XHTML. With no DTD decleration the menu does not create the extra space. Is there a solution to this?

Here are the URLS -

XHTML (with space between banner table and menu table) - http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/post/test/top.shtml

HTML (no DTD, no space) -
http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/post/test/top2.shtml

I have already tried to combine the banner into a row above the menu but the space is still present. Does this mean there is a slight postioning bug with using the menu with xhtml! ?

HELP! TY!

Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday July 14 2004 - 21:37:31 BST

Hey Tep -

No idea if this will help, but I write my XHTML DTD as follows...

Note the additional line at the top.

Sorry I don't have an old NS to look at it.

Poster: mfindlay
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 1:31:29 BST

I have the same problem on MAC NS 6.

The problem is 2-fold actually;
1) td cells that contain images but no text have gaps placed in them by NS6 Mac. The issue has to do with Mac NS leaving space for the descender on the non-existent text. This is the initial cause of the gaps. To solve that problem, I created 2 styles that set the line-height to zero percent and assign them to the rows and tds containing the images:



Then in the source code:


All this solved the problem - until

2) I introduced the Milonic menus to the page. As soon as I inserted the call to drawMenus(), the gap re-appeared on Netscape 6 on MAC.

So the question is: what is it about the Milonic code and drawMenus() that disrupts the styles/formatting etc?

Any help is greatly appreciated

Poster: Ruth
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 3:37:27 BST

I have Netscape 6.1 and tested John's code, it didn't change anything. However, the space is at the bottom of the table with the banner.gif, so I tried mfindlay's code in the head of the page and then did the tr and td coding as posted here in that banner table, and that got rid of the space....... You should upgrade to 5.33 [don't forget to save your old files until you're sure there are no problems.

Ruth

Poster: mfindlay
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 7:08:37 BST

I upgraded from 5.32 to 5.33 and it seems about 90% fixed now.

The only problem seems to be the first entry into the page. About half of the time the page is first entered (really, the one that counts) the line appears, but upon doing a refresh the problem line always goes away.

Could it be a timing issue with the loading of the page in NS 6 on Mac?

You can see an example of this on the home page at: http://www.caseygrants.org/newsite/

Poster: Ruth
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 7:41:06 BST

I'm sorry, mfindlay, I could only test on a pc, don't have a mac, but using your style coding fixed the problem in NS on a pc.

Ruth

Poster: tepidarium
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 14:12:21 BST

mfindlay & RUth - thanks for your replies. I will try the CSS you inserted.

I am hesitant to upgrade to v. 5.33 of the menu because of the menu width issue that I have found in the new verson - see my post at:

http://www.milonic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4561

Poster: John
Dated: Thursday July 15 2004 - 15:12:42 BST

mf, if it is a timing issue you can try moving the menu calls. We usually recommend the first item in the body or in the head, but in some situations folks have found placing the calls at the very end of the page worked.