Menu on Milonic site

Poster: Ruth
Dated: Tuesday February 24 2004 - 23:11:03 GMT

I'm having a problem, I finally went to ie5.5 and now when I go to the Milonic home page and try to get something in the menu, when the submenus open the page shows through it so that I'm reading whatever is in the menu plus the words behind it on the page. Is there something for me to do in this ie to stop that from happening, or am I now stuck with seeing that all the time?

Ruth

Poster: kevin3442
Dated: Wednesday February 25 2004 - 0:02:35 GMT

Hi Ruth,

That's actually by (Andy's) design. In the menu_data file for milonic.com, in the style for his drop-down submenus (vertStyle), his overfilter is:

The "Alpha(opacity=90)" part makes the submenu only 90% opaque... i.e., 10% transparent. The result, as you've seen, is that the background shows through the submenu a little. You'll see the same effect in (at least many of) the downloadable examples, because they contain the same overfilter. As far as I know, you will only see the effect (along with the drop shadows and the pixelated fadeout on mouseout) in IE5.5 or higher, because the transitional filters used are through DirectX and are unique to IE5.5+.

Hope that "clears things up"

Kevin

Poster: Ruth
Dated: Wednesday February 25 2004 - 0:13:35 GMT

Oh....so how can I get rid of IE5.5 and go back. I can't find an uninstall.exe and add/remove programs doesn't let me remove it, the only option it doesn't have. And, though I've got the setup for ie5, I can't install that because it just keeps saying a newer version is installed...grrrr...or is there some setting on ie to turn off that filter stuff?

Ruth

Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday February 25 2004 - 17:47:55 GMT

A 10% setting, as Andy has, shouldn't be that much of a 'bleed-through', Ruth. I know it affects different folks in different ways, but that setting is pretty light.

I'd really like to discourage you from going backwards here. I suspect you are aware of my feelings for IE and company, but the way the web is advancing now you're going to put yourself in a box.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Wednesday February 25 2004 - 18:42:18 GMT

If Andy reads this, I'd also like to point out that he has changed the html page text and its really small now

maz

Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday February 25 2004 - 18:47:46 GMT

Specifically which page(s)? Home site? I don't see any text size changes over there...

Poster: sparkstack
Dated: Thursday February 26 2004 - 10:01:35 GMT

Yeah, the text has changed, slightly for the better and he appears to have updated some of the descriptions on the example pages.. Specifically the example on using the menu in a table (i was looking at it on and off for most of the day yesterday, and in the afternoon the description and the font both changed.

One thing i have noticed.. In IE6 the font on the pages is a reasonable size and quite easy to read (on a 21" monitor anyway) But switch to Mozilla FireFox and the font is a lot smaller, like 50% smaller...

It's not me, if i look at http://www.bbc.co.uk in both browsers, they look the same...

Poster: John
Dated: Thursday February 26 2004 - 13:48:35 GMT

I've been seeing a font size difference between Mac and PC on the download link page for some time, but nothing I can't live with. After I posted my "no difference" note yesterday I did start seeing a difference on some of the pages. As you say, for the better (but not as tiny as Maz was saying!).

Poster: kevin3442
Dated: Thursday February 26 2004 - 16:31:02 GMT



I guess I don't notice any significant difference (usually using IE6/Win2k). I believe Maz is referring to the font used inside the <pre></pre> tags on the sample pages, to show the menu code. I haven't noticed a change, but then it seems to me that it has always been a very small font... makes sense I suppose, given the long lines of code that are sometimes involved. It does respond to changing the relative "text size" in the browser... at least in IE6/Win2k, so that when I do want to read it, I can make it bigger (shortcut in IE6... hold down ctrl and roll the mouse wheel backwards). Personally, I usually don't bother reading that; I look at the menu data file for the page itself or just download the sample.

My two cents...

Kevin

Poster: Ruth
Dated: Monday March 1 2004 - 0:14:16 GMT

Well, I don't know how much you're supposed to see be it comes through enough so I can actually read the text behind the menu. RIght now I've got computer problems ... and since my only option is my laptop which is only actually usually ...lol...for playing my old dos games, it's '95 and ie 4!!!! so I don't see any bleed

Ruth

Poster: Maz
Dated: Monday March 1 2004 - 2:18:26 GMT

Sorry to hear you have computer problems, I have a laptop like that

Glad to have a virus free mac.

maz