Problem with Image Width and Height in v5 and Alt Text

Poster: tomistrugar
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 22:29:40 BST

When I add an image to a menu item and I specify an imagewidth and imageheight it seems only the imageheight is read, the imagewidth is ignored, and the image is scaled accordingy. Am I using the correct syntax?

eg.

aI("url=/index.html;status=Home Page;image=/menu5/logo.gif;imageheight=101;imagewidth=206;");

Also, the height and width values give different sizes from the same values when used in v3 of the menu. Why is this so and are the values in pixels?

Lastly, is it possible to add 'alt' text for the image?

Your help will be much appreciated.

Thanks
Tomi

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 23:18:49 BST

Your syntax looks fine from what I can see. Do you have a URL so we may see it?

Right now there is no way using the menu's features to put in an alt into the image. But you can get around this until we put it in (I think it will someday, thats what I think) by hard coding an img tag into the menu item. See this example.

Poster: Andy
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 8:22:22 BST

Hold on a second, this was added ages ago. . . ..

I see the problem now. The quick refefences were using an old copy of milonic_src.js - no wonder the updates were wrong.

Anyway, you should be able to use imagealt in a menu item containing an image.

Cheers
Andy

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 19:05:35 BST

Excellent! Nice job Andy. But you can't fault me, I tried looking it up before I posted that to be sure! But so everyone knows, that was a feature request made not too long ago, maybe a month or so ago, and its already in there. Great job boss.

ADA Compliance

Poster: DMLCo
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 19:31:50 BST

Just as an FYI for folks in the USA: this is a crucial feature, as if you are using image based menuing and you _don't_ include ALT tags, your site is essentially non-navigable by the software used by vision-impaired users.

It also is no longer ADA Compliant, which may or may not matter ...

If you've never done it, download one of the website reading pieces of software and take a look at your site: the first time you do it, it's positively scary.

-Daniel

Poster: Maz
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 21:02:58 BST

This subject is discussed in suggestions.
I appreciate your feedback on the subject.
I use the title tag which is believed to be voice readable.
I try to use text for links and only use images for design with color blindness in mind.

Regards
maz

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Saturday September 20 2003 - 4:49:35 BST

Maz I think I told you this before. In your menu items, you have title defined. As in title=Products....just so you know this doesn't do anything for the menu. When the menu renders, it parses up the aI string and if it sees any keywords it recognizes, it uses them, and title is not one of them. To double check this, I pulled up the HTML generated by the menu (Not view source, the thing I used shows all the DIVs that comprise the menu) and there is nothing that pulls your titles along into the menu. The code ignores any keywords it doesn't understand, title being one of them. You can leave them in there, but they aren't doing anything, I just thought I would let ya know.

Re: ADA Compliance

Poster: John
Dated: Saturday September 20 2003 - 16:33:57 BST


Trust me - we DO know and care. Andy has stated a number of times that this system WILL be 508 compliant when it is complete (keep in mind, we are still in essentially beta with v5).

Have you tried the imagealt as Andy suggested? We always appreciate feedback, especially in this area, so we can make this the best and most compliant system available.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Saturday September 20 2003 - 21:15:53 BST

Thank you Dave

I replaced title with status.
And found this very useful: http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-forms-970402

maz

Poster: tomistrugar
Dated: Saturday September 20 2003 - 23:03:05 BST

Dear All

You can see the problems I'm having at:

http://www.population.org.au/index5.html

Thanks Andy, imagealt works fine.

There are currently 4 menus on this page:

1. menu_logo.js - This has the problem with image width and height. (see source in centre of page)
2. menu_top.js - Displays Home, Support Us, etc and works fine.
3. menu_main.js - Displays Search, Populaion, etc and works fine.

4. menu_right.js - Free Bumper Stickers, etc. This menu has another problem - When screenposition is used, then top value is ignored (see source in centre of page). I tested this also on the menu_main.js by setting screenposition="left" and the menu moved to the top of the screen, ignoring top=128.

Are these two issues (1. & 4.) bugs?

I downloaded the latest menu files on 19-Sep-03.

Thanks and regards
Tomi

Poster: Maz
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 11:52:50 BST

I have the same problem, top position was working before the 15th.
I also got an error message object expected, try logo header background color.
maz

Poster: John
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 4:19:42 BST


What did you do with the file I sent you last week? It was working fine.

Poster: John
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 4:29:33 BST


RC11 v9/20/03 is now current. No idea what it fixed, however.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 5:46:35 BST

I feel like I'm repeating myself, the top right menu last positioned from the top on the 15th version.

The other problem was not mine the logo menu background color had 7 digits.

Regards
maz

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 13:56:44 BST

Yeah i see what you mean maz. John, what shes saying is her top xp menu is supposed to be right justified and float a couple pixels from the top. But because she has the 'right' attribute in the menu, its ignoring the top value. See her code...
It looks alright to me but I am still unsure as to why it continues to hug the top of the browser. It SHOULD stick to the right side (which is does) and be 50 px from the top, but its 0px from the top. But the code looks good. Not sure whats up.

Poster: John
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 14:43:03 BST

OK, now I got it. I had been concentrating more on her missing scroller before.

Poster: tomistrugar
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 22:56:35 BST

I believe I have found the bugs that caused the original problem reported here. See my post

http://www.milonic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11084

Regards
Tomi