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Taken From The Forum: Help & Support for DHTML Menu Version 5+
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Last Updated: Saturday July 14 2012 - 06:07:12
Mac computer can not pull up the menu
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Tuesday September 16 2003 - 16:04:52 BST
I can see my menu, (I use a PC and IE) but my partner in this project can not.
He is using.... OS 9.2.2 on a dual boot G4 with DSL service, Netscape 7.0 on which he received everything but the Navigation Bar at the top
of the Horton page. Also tried Internet Explorer 5 for MAC and was able to down-load nothing, not even the flash intro page.
This is the menu
http://www.adventurescape.com/HortonRealty/home.htm
Its an image menu inside a table.
Is there some special thing about Macs and this menu? or Macs and the Internet - He says he can pull up the BBC and CNN, etc
thanks if anyone knows this one .....
Re: Mac computer can not pull up the menu
Poster: John
Dated: Tuesday September 16 2003 - 17:53:33 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
Is there some special thing about Macs and this menu? or Macs and the Internet?
No, nothing at all (other than they're a *^#%$( __at__ better than Win machines
).
You mentioned dual boot. I'll take that to mean OS 9/OS X, yes? If so, get him on OS X. Have to wait until I get home to look at it on my Mac, but I didn't see anything glaring in your code.
Suggestions - move up to RC10 (don't forget to put your license number in your milonic_src file!). READ THE DOCS on RC10 (install.txt). Changes to the JS calls (no more scriptpath).
Meanwhile, try this. Move...
Code:
<script language=JavaScript src="/HortonRealty/milonic/milonic_src.js" type=text/javascript></script>
...out of the <td> and make it the first item just after <body>. Leave the menu_data call where it is.
Then have him try it under OS X - Safari (it will render fine, but has a few minor problems), IE5.2.3, and/or NS7.1.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Tuesday September 16 2003 - 18:51:40 BST
John, humor me - I'm scared about changing somthing that looks like it works- I have the RC10 version, or I think I do - do I have to change anything in the menu_data.js file?
Poster: John
Dated: Tuesday September 16 2003 - 20:34:21 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
John, humor me...
Ok, let's see here - did ya hear the one about the - oh, never mind...
Yes, you do not have to change anything in your data file
[Read that sentence carefully.] The only changes involve the JS calls (now 3 instead of 2), and the deletion of the scriptpath parameter (but you still need the 3 base menu files, including milonic_src, which is where scriptpath was located).
As for RC10, towards the top of the milonic_src you will see...
Code:
Version 5.0 Release Candidate 10.0 Built: Monday September 15 2003 - 12:30
The date and time you see on your copy should be equal to or more recent than that shown above.
Make cents
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Tuesday September 16 2003 - 20:39:38 BST
ok, will try, am studiously reading all the notes now
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 3:56:55 BST
OK, from home under OS X...
Safari1.0 - Menu displayed and operated properly (but was missing the border around each sub-menu).
IE5.2.3 - Zippo. Nothing (to be expected from IE).
NS7.1 - Same as Safari.
I notice you haven't made the code moves I suggested in a previous post early this morning. We can't help if you don't want to play...
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 14:16:32 BST
Hi John
Yes I did do it, I had to move locations because of future problems with DW templates.
http://www.hortonrealty.tc/hortonrealty/home.htm
I almost sent a message and asked for help but perservered and voila ! it works....I'm not a total scatterbrain.
I'm waiting to hear from my Mac man to see if it made a difference to him - he's still sleeping.... If you can pull it up and he can't could it be that he has some feature not clicked? he couldn't even see the flash movie on the index page....
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 14:58:10 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
I almost sent a message and asked for help but perservered and voila ! it works....I'm not a total scatterbrain.
Never said you were
Surfergirl wrote:
I'm waiting to hear from my Mac man to see if it made a difference to him - he's still sleeping.... If you can pull it up and he can't could it be that he has some feature not clicked? he couldn't even see the flash movie on the index page....
At work now so I can't check it on a Mac.
If by flash movie you mean the Welcome text box, yes I saw that, but it didn't do anything. Is it animated?
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 15:09:38 BST
It's an intro movie - http://www.hortonrealty.tc/hortonrealty/
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 15:13:57 BST
All I saw was a 'Welcome', followed by a paragraph of text. It just sits there (doesn't do anything here on XP, either).
The link you just posted did not show up on Mac or XP.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 15:26:59 BST
are you saying you can not see the menu at http://www.hortonrealty.tc/hortonrealty/home.htm ?
the only page with flash is the index page
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 15:30:02 BST
No, I can see the menu (both Mac as described earlier and Win). What I can't see is the Flash you just posted a link for (unless I specifically go to that link).
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 17:15:12 BST
Hello
he still can't see it OS9, with netscape 7 and ie5
his friend on OSX cant see it with ie - don't know the version
its a problem...
could it be because its in a cell? Should i make the page in layers?
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 19:56:37 BST
Wouldn't hurt to try layers (divs?), but I don't think that's it.
Have him go to http://www.west.asu.edu/reslife/reslife.htm. About 1/4 the way down there's a red/brown "button" with a star on the end that says, "Visit Las Casas". It's Flash. A simple mouseOver should make the star rotate. Just a test to see if his setup can handle any Flash at all.
You might also have him go to http://macromedia.com/ and click on 'Download Flash Player'. This will make sure he has the latest version installed.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 20:06:47 BST
I'm not worried about the flash, I can't put a 'skip intro' link on that page - its more about the menu, - he can't see it. Its images in a table, which is the blue bar that he can't see . Nor the drop downs. I don't know anything about macs ...
Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 20:27:39 BST
You don't need to know anything special about Macs. Just program your menu.
I just dragged out an old laptop with 9.1 on it (home sick today) and IE5.1.7. I don't see the menu there, either. It also fails to show under NS7.01.
But - one more time - move...
Code:
<script language=JavaScript src="/HortonRealty/milonic/milonic_src.js" type=text/javascript></script>
...out of the <td> and put it as the first item after <body>. Leave the menu_data.js call by itself in the <td>.
Also, I noticed a number of numeric items in your style that you have quoted ("1", etc.). Again, don't know if that would choke the menu, as it is working on other browsers/platforms.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Wednesday September 17 2003 - 20:43:03 BST
I'm relocated at - http://www.hortonrealty.tc/hortonrealty/home.htm
I believe the setup is correct, or it wouldn't work...
I went through the code and took off all '' '' around numbers. I still don't have any positive results. Is it the background color being the same as the page?
here is what it does if you put it in <div>
http://www.hortonrealty.tc/hortonrealty/home2.htm
can you see the menu on your Mac with IE?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 5:16:16 BST
Can't see it either way (you shouldn't need the div).
Tomorrow I'll try to pull down all your code and load it on the laptop and see what I can do.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 14:15:07 BST
John, thanks for all your help. I'm about to loose this contract over the menu not working on his Mac. I love the menu but.... should I go elsewhere?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 14:44:44 BST
I'd say stick it out as long as you can. This is THE best menu system around - you won't find any better. Andy has put many hours into workarounds for this kind of problem (unless my fever has caused me to miss something). I just dropped him a note to look at this topic.
Meanwhile, I can't pull your code now because I don't have a Mac at work, but I will try to get it done as soon as I get home.
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 14:58:19 BST
Just remembered, you said your customer is running a dual-boot system. So why is he still hanging back on OS 9? I know that doesn't solve the problem for the other folks who are still on 9 (we'll get it!), but if he's got OS X loaded he should be using it.
Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:02:00 BST
Hi Folks.
I've found the problem
It's a bogus file - Believe it or not there is something inside the menu_data.js file that the Mac doesn't like.
Not sure what it is (don't really care
) But. . . If you copy the contents of the file and paste them into a new file it works, at least it does with UltraEdit on XP
Don't ya just love IE on the Mac
Anyway, let me know how you get on
Cheers
Andy
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:09:35 BST
Andy wrote:
I've found the problem
Tank U, oh great Master from the East (well, east of me, anyway!).
Andy wrote:
It's a bogus file - Believe it or not there is something inside the menu_data.js file that the Mac doesn't like.
Not sure what it is (don't really care ) But. . . If you copy the contents of the file and paste them into a new file it works, at least it does with UltraEdit on XP
Not sure what it is (don't really care
) But. . . If you copy the contents of the file and paste them into a new file it works, at least it does with UltraEdit on XPNot something I would have thought of. Assuming maybe an accidental invisible character of some kind (whatever), why didn't it go with the copy?
Andy wrote:
Don't ya just love IE on the Mac
Hate it. M$ pulled out because they couldn't fix the dopey thing (IMHO).
Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:20:21 BST
Yeah, it happend before so I had a hunch (that's the "idea" type of hunch and not the "weird growth on ones back" type of hunch, in case you were wondering)
What I normally do for testing is pull the site down with IE (File-Save As) and then edit the .htm file to point to the dev copy of the menu. Then I can play with it and tweak it till its fixed.
It had to be something to do with the file. I took EVERYTHING out of it and it still returned an error. It's the most bizzare of problems... stoopid Macs
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:23:51 BST
Andy wrote:
It had to be something to do with the file. I took EVERYTHING out of it and it still returned an error. It's the most bizzare of problems... stoopid Macs
Boo Hiss - stoopid Win for not detecting the problem
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:34:50 BST
Found it
You have some blank lines before the first actual code line (_menuCloseDelay=500). Looking at it in ASCII mode, in the very top line there is a mysterious invisible o;? lurking there (just those 3 characters). No idea what they represent, but I don't see them in other _data files I just looked at. Also don't know why they didn't move over when Andy did a copy/paste, but it looks like you could also try just deleting those blank lines.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:48:12 BST
forgive me but I can not find (_menuCloseDelay=500) in menu_data.js - I tried copy and paste into new file and he still cannt see das menu
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 15:59:12 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
forgive me but I can not find (_menuCloseDelay=500) in menu_data.js - I tried copy and paste into new file and he still cannt see das menu
It's the very first code line (after the mentioned blank lines) in your menu_data.js...
Code:
_menuCloseDelay=500 // The time delay for menus to remain visible on mouse out
_menuOpenDelay=150 // The time delay before menus open on mouse over
_followSpeed=5 // Follow scrolling speed
_followRate=40 // Follow scrolling Rate
_subOffsetTop=10 // Sub menu top offset
_subOffsetLeft=-10 // Sub menu left offset
_scrollAmount=3 // Only needed for Netscape 4.x
_scrollDelay=20 // Only needed for Netcsape 4.x
_menuOpenDelay=150 // The time delay before menus open on mouse over
_followSpeed=5 // Follow scrolling speed
_followRate=40 // Follow scrolling Rate
_subOffsetTop=10 // Sub menu top offset
_subOffsetLeft=-10 // Sub menu left offset
_scrollAmount=3 // Only needed for Netscape 4.x
_scrollDelay=20 // Only needed for Netcsape 4.x
etc.
Before that you have 3 blank lines. It's in the first blank line that I found that invisible stuff. Since the c/p didn't work, try completely removing those 3 blank lines and resaving the file.
Also, he might have to clear his browser cache. With that piece of junk browser it's entirely possible he's still looking at a cached version of the page. Another trick is to hold down the Shift key while hitting the refresh button in the browser.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:14:14 BST
ok, have corrected the file (panic caused me not to see it) deleted the "invisible" and he still says he cannut see it. Would you be so kind to look at my file to see if I deleted it please?
Confirmed - he says he on OX9.2.2, Rom 9.6.1, Netscape 7
thanks millions
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:33:33 BST
I just pulled your menu data at /HortonRealty/milonic/menu_data.js and there are still 3 blank lines above the first menudelay stuff. Remove the lines entirely so that the file starts like this...
Code:
Line1: _menuCloseDelay=500
Line2: _menuOpenDelay=150
Line3: _followSpeed=5 // Follow scrolling speed
Line4: _followRate=40 // Follow scrolling Rate
So basically _menuCloseDelay is the VERY first line in the file, and remember, dont copy the Line1,Line2,... that I put in the example. Line2: _menuOpenDelay=150
Line3: _followSpeed=5 // Follow scrolling speed
Line4: _followRate=40 // Follow scrolling Rate
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:43:06 BST
Ok, I do not see any 'blank lines' - have hit backspace in both notepad and word pad. Dude says he still can't see it so I guess I'm not deleting the invisible - what should I do? Can someone post the corrected file so I can copy it? thanks
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:44:24 BST
Don't see it that way here, Dave. The blank lines are gone (remember, she's moved to a new URL), and so are the goofy characters.
However, looking at the file exactly the same way I did earlier (changing the suffix to .txt, and opening it in Word as US-ASCII), I now see an unprintable character (open box) between every character in the file. I did not see that before using the same setup.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:47:15 BST
Is it possible that my method of saving the file is messing it up? I save in notpad - Unicode txt and in WordPad - Unicode txt ?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:47:47 BST
You said WordPad. If you used that to save it, are you sure you set the type to 'Text Document' (not unicode or the default RTF)?
Poster: Maz
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:49:06 BST
Did you leave off doctype?
I don't see it.
Regards
maz
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:52:51 BST
In Wordpad - file name = menu_data.js and Save as type = unicode text document
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:53:53 BST
maz wrote:
Did you leave off doctype?
We're talking about the menu_data.js here. No doctype needed.
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:54:54 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
In Wordpad - file name = menu_data.js and Save as type = unicode text document
No. As I said above - 'Text Document'!
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:55:38 BST
No in wordpad...
File name: menu_data.js
Save as Type: Text Document
You DO NOT want Unicode.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 16:59:10 BST
you are kidding? how do I get rid of all the little invisible things you see - will they disappear if I save it as a txt? or do I have to start over from scratch?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:00:38 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
you are kidding? how do I get rid of all the little invisible things you see - will they disappear if I save it as a txt? or do I have to start over from scratch?
Kidding? Have we ever lied to you...
They should all go away.
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:02:31 BST
You should be ok. Viewing your file, if everything looks ok and you see no funny characters, things are spaced properly and such, if you save as the text format, it should encode everything properly. Text format is doesn't use as big a character set when displaying and saving files, its not as extensive as Unicode (the text format is ASCII I believe), and thats why something came up funny in Unicode, because it was able to encode something funny when ASCII would just make it a space or nothing at all. Correct me if I am wrong here.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:04:15 BST
it's hard being stupid, it hurts. If I save it in notepad , text there is a choice of ANSI - is that correct?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:04:29 BST
Hergio wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong here.
Yes, you are not wrong...
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:08:03 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
it's hard being stupid, it hurts. If I save it in notepad , text there is a choice of ANSI - is that correct?
Yes, but note that 'choice' is the default, which is exactly what you want. The others are 2 unicode (which we just told you about), and UTF-8, which you also do NOT want.
Rule: Straight, plain-jane text for .js
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:08:20 BST
thx bunches - will let you know if it worked
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:08:25 BST
Quote:
If I save it in notepad , text there is a choice of ANSI - is that correct?
Yup thats ok. But remember if you dont specify a .js on the end of the file name, it will make it a txt file. You need to make sure you force the name by saying menu_data.js or even "menu_data.js".
Poster: Maz
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:08:53 BST
I found that sometimes, when the menu didn't appear to change, after I restarted the computer it came up correct. Now I just close the browser and reopen, just to make sure the cache cleared or a new image reloaded.
maz
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 17:11:53 BST
maz wrote:
I found that sometimes, when the menu didn't appear to change, after I restarted the computer it came up correct. Now I just close the browser and reopen, just to make sure the cache cleared or a new image reloaded.
Much easier to just hold down Shift while clicking Refresh in the browser. This forces (in browsers that behave themselves!) a reload of the page from the server.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 18:48:35 BST
have followed the saving process to a T - he says he still can't pull up the menu.
I had him go to milonic.com - he can see that menu - hurray - so its just something wrong on my side - any more good ideas?
Poster: Maz
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 18:48:44 BST
Thanks for the tip, I do have it set up to reload every time, but I'll still try it.
maz
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 19:35:07 BST
maz wrote:
Thanks for the tip, I do have it set up to reload every time, but I'll still try it.
maz
maz
Mine is set that way, also, but I know for a fact it doesn't do it every time.
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 20:01:08 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
have followed the saving process to a T - he says he still can't pull up the menu.
I had him go to milonic.com - he can see that menu - hurray - so its just something wrong on my side - any more good ideas?
I had him go to milonic.com - he can see that menu - hurray - so its just something wrong on my side - any more good ideas?
I just pulled your data file down again, and it's still showing up as Unicode.
When you send this file to the server most ftp programs give you a choice of what format to send. Possibilities (not knowing what program you use) are automatic, binary, text, raw, etc. Again, as with the save, you must select text (it might also say ASCII or ANSI). Do NOT rely on automatic, or anything like it, to do the job. Text.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 20:48:40 BST
I'm uploading through DW - I don't know if there is a setting.
Are you sure saving it as a text file will dump the bad stuff? I'm looking for the easy way of getting around retyping all that blood sweat and tears.
will try other FTP program now
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 20:56:28 BST
John - can you still see the Unicode ?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 21:02:24 BST
Just sent you one via e-mail. It should work, but your e-mail program might choke because it's a .js file. Let me know.
Also, since you have DW, why are you editing in note/wordpad
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 21:08:44 BST
ooo, I don't know - I can't get it open in DW - its says "Unable to launch....be sure the application exists (notepad) and there is enough memory to run it" - so I use Notepad.. tell me how to do it proper ...
I have most likely messed up the src file too - as I uploaded it the same way
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 21:36:51 BST
Are you talking about the file I just sent you? That was saved in DW! Maybe the e-mail programs messed it up - should have zipped it.
Start up DW, then from the File menu select Open and try to get it that way. If it works do a Save As menu_data.js (don't forget the .js on the end!).
You can also right click on the file itself, then from the popup menu select Open With. If DW isn't already listed there then select Choose Program and select DW from there.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 21:52:40 BST
ok, I have resaved as a text file in DW and reloaded -
DW does not look very friendly - its all run together...is there a secret way around that?
Poster: John
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 21:58:01 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
ok, I have resaved as a text file in DW and reloaded
I hope you really don't mean 'text'. You did put .js on the end, right?
Surfergirl wrote:
DW does not look very friendly - its all run together...is there a secret way around that?
DW is very friendly. Don't understand what you mean by 'run together'.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 22:20:36 BST
this is what it looks like when I open it in DW - runtogther
_menuCloseDelay=500// The time delay for menus to remain visible on mouse out_menuOpenDelay=150// The time delay before menus open on mouse over_followSpeed=5// Follow scrolling speed_followRate=40// Follow scrolling Rate_subOffsetTop=10// Sub menu top offset
_subOffsetLeft=-10// Sub menu left offset_scrollAmount=3// Only needed for Netscape 4.x_scrollDelay=20 // Only needed for Netcsape 4.x
etc etc - Since I know it works - I went to files, right click, use Openwith and then find the DW.exe (right?)
Then I saved it as .js (text file) and uploaded it again (right?)
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 23:14:38 BST
Yeah you are now editing and uploading correctly...but the 'run together code' isnt going to cut it. You need to edit it slightly to put the line breaks back in. Just put your cursor where you need a linebreak and press return, and format the code so it looks like you know it should. THen save, DW will save it right and keep the formatting in the process so the next time you open it in DW, it will look fine.
Do all your coding in the 'code view' of DW (what you're using now). Its the best there is (IMHO) and it has syntax highlighting, auto completion, etc. Very nice.
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 23:29:10 BST
Sounds dumb, but am a bit parnoid now, is it ok to use shift/enter when I'm rearranging the jumble in DW?
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Thursday September 18 2003 - 23:55:27 BST
Good News - James can read it - that is when I uploaded it as a run-on file from DW - scared to upload the one I just formatted with line returns - I have DW3 - maybe its not so fab as newer versions?
Poster: John
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 1:33:20 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
Sounds dumb, but am a bit parnoid now, is it ok to use shift/enter when I'm rearranging the jumble in DW?
NO! As mentioned in my e-mail, you need returns in the code, not <br>.
Poster: John
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 1:40:50 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
Good News - James can read it - that is when I uploaded it as a run-on file from DW - scared to upload the one I just formatted with line returns - I have DW3 - maybe its not so fab as newer versions?
I am sorry to have to inform you that I can now see the menu on my laptop...
The only problem I see here is the Listings sub is not up against the main menu - it's down about 2 lines. Other than that - it's all there.
As for DW3 - get rid of it. Upgrade (seems I've heard that term before). Current is Dreamweaver 2004 MX (actually v7 - puts you down-level a bit). Got mine today, and it's miles ahead of even v6.1! Unfortunately you'll have to go for the full price. Upgrade pricing requires DW4 or better, but it's still worth it.
Go to http://affiliates.macromedia.com/b.asp?id=1929&p=go/dr_home_aff1 for a direct path to the online store.
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 3:44:38 BST
Thats really great that you've finally got it working. My gosh, Macs are picky, but they are pretty sweet too! hehe
Dreamweaver MX is much better. I definetly think there was a substantial improvement over DW3, I would get it. I am trying to get my work to purchase 2004 for me.
Also just for clarification. In dreamweavers CODE VIEW, shift+enter won't do anything. (At least in DW4MX) The editor is smart enough to realize that if you are in a .js file that there are no <BR>s so it won't do anything. Can't say that for HTML or ASP pages though, it WILL put in a <BR> and as John so nicely put it, YOU DONT WANT THAT! hehe Best of luck, on the menu, and with your (hopefully) upgrade.
Poster: John
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 6:43:49 BST
Hergio wrote:
I am trying to get my work to purchase 2004 for me.
Gee, Dave - mine did it for me
Put the pressure on. Tell them you have influential friends in Great Britian...
Poster: John
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 6:52:35 BST
Hergio wrote:
Also just for clarification. In dreamweavers CODE VIEW, shift+enter won't do anything. (At least in DW4MX)
OK, my turn to be picky. In DWMX6.1, Shift+Enter does give a <br /> (set here for XHTML, of course).
Poster: John
Dated: Friday September 19 2003 - 6:54:20 BST
Hergio wrote:
Also just for clarification. In dreamweavers CODE VIEW, shift+enter won't do anything. (At least in DW4MX)
OK, my turn to be picky. In DWMX6.1, Shift+Enter does give a <br /> (set here for XHTML, of course).
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Saturday September 20 2003 - 23:18:42 BST
Also, DW3, if you hit return it puts in <p> !
Can't you just use wordpad, save it as a text then open that in in DW and save it as .js?
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 3:38:35 BST
You can save it as a .js in wordpad too. Just in the save dialog, for the Save Type, make sure it says text, in the file name box, type the name of the file and put a .js at the end of it. And there ya go, a javascript file created by wordpad!
Poster: John
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 4:57:39 BST
Surfergirl wrote:
Can't you just use wordpad, save it as a text then open that in in DW and save it as .js?
Why go to all that extra work when you can simply work in code mode in DW? One stop coding...
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 7:33:20 BST
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Also, DW3, if you hit return it puts in <p> !
Are you serious? You mean, even in code view and your cursor is between <SCRIPT> tags it puts a <p> when you hit return? And even if you are editing the code of a .js file it puts in a <p>? I dont have a copy of DW3, but that would be absolutely stupid of them to make it do that when its obvious you are not in HTML mode. I have trouble believing it b/c its so ludicris. Are you making sure that when you are editing these files in DW, you are working in Code View? (Make sure the little button on the upper left of the toolbar that looks like <> is clicked.)
Poster: Surfergirl
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 16:45:55 BST
Yes, although could be mistaken. I took the working file John gave me, run together (not his fault), open in DW3 and hit enter afer each line - the menu quit working - pulled it up in WordPad and saw <p>'s all over the place - so I edited them out, saved that as a text and then resaved it in DW as .js and it was still non-functional.
So I had to revert back to the copy John sent. Its very difficult work with when it is all run-on like that.
the saga continues.
I made templates in DW and it started showing black in the submenus - I had put in black page backgrounds because I read somewhere that mac couldnt read white on white - It wasn't a problem until yesterday.
today I am going to whip out the cc and upgrade DW and load it on a brand new laptop with XP professional - keep your fingers crossed -
Poster: Hergio
Dated: Sunday September 21 2003 - 20:10:39 BST
Whoo hoo! You will be pleasantly pleased with the features and functionality of the new dreamweaver. Glad to here your upgrading...feel free to pick up a second copy for me! Haha, just kidding, I'm about to go out and get it myself! Worth the $$. But see if your work will pick up some of the tab (if you are in that line of work of course; I would think it might look suspicious if you were a telephone operator or something and wanted work to buy DW for you, for 'business purposes', hehe
) I think most of your problems will go away with the new version.
Poster: John
Dated: Monday September 22 2003 - 4:15:22 BST
I have no idea why that file should come across all run together as you describe. It sure didn't go out that way, and with it zipped the mail programs shouldn't be able to mess with it. Maybe it's something in DW3.
Given you're so far back, get ready for a learning curve with DW 2004. That's not meant to scare you, but a lot has been added since 3.