Mac problems with RC 17

Poster: hbrand
Dated: Tuesday October 14 2003 - 22:14:05 BST

Andy,

I just purchased your new menu but it appears to be buggy in Mac IE 5.x and Scape 7.x; 6.7x. It works like a dream on Safari.

First, the dropdowns do not appear until the menu item is clicked on, then the dropdowns appear on mouseover. Also, the rollover image does not rollback on mouseout. At times, the menu items simply do not appear.

It's at http://www.roberthildebrand.com/websites/see/ which is my development area.

Any fixes planned?

Cheers,
Robert

Poster: John
Dated: Tuesday October 14 2003 - 23:33:09 BST

Remove the items from your style that have "#none" and "none". They are invalid and the page is throwing JS errors as soon as you mouse over any menu.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 0:40:29 BST

I would remove scroll, you don't need it.

Can't figure out what's happening here when I mouse over your images I don't see start div:
................................
<img src="images/main6.gif">






</div>

</body>
</html>
...................................

I just want to add, you shouldn't have a problem with what you are doing, I use Mac ie 5.1.7 all the time, anything lower should be upgraded, apple java run time and ie. Your page looks great, just need to locate whatever is causing the javascript error.

Regards
maz

well, I removed the none's

Poster: hbrand
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 1:05:53 BST

after removing the "nones and "#nones" there really isn't any change in either IE or Scape. In both rollovers do not roll back to original state after mouseoff.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 1:18:15 BST

It might be your paths try a slash infront of all of them.

/menu/milonic_src.js

Regards
maz

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 2:12:33 BST

The paths seem fine, I was able to access all of his menu scripts using his current convention. But as Maz suggested, you may want to start using absolute paths as you add pages to your site.

Anyways, try upgrading ALL your menu files to release candidate 17. I noticed your milonic_src was RC17 but your others were RC15. There were changes to the menu that I know of that may be causing this error. For instance, a "cursor" option was added to the menu and _mP (the error I am getting), from what I can gather, pertains to that. Upgrade ALL source files anytime a new one comes out. You are relatively safe on keeping your menu_data file as is though, Andy will generally let us know if something needs to be changed in that.

Poster: John
Dated: Wednesday October 15 2003 - 4:13:20 BST

Downloaded your HTML and ran it here against the current RC17 (all RC17!). NO problems on both Safari85.5 and IE5.2.3.

As Dave said - match 'em up

Poster: stephen702
Dated: Thursday October 16 2003 - 17:07:14 BST

I have had one user notify me of what appears to be the same problem. She's using AOL on a iMac.

All my files (except the menu file itself) are RC 17.

http://www.aact.org/


Stephen

Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday October 16 2003 - 17:35:45 BST

The menu is inside a <DIV> Not sure what the benefit of that is but it is causing the problem.

Cheers
Andy

Poster: Maz
Dated: Thursday October 16 2003 - 19:19:49 BST

I have the same problems, the menu actually works better in a div on a mac, but doesn't open submenus on windows so lose it.

I want to know if it makes any difference to use the span tag?

I am attempting to replace layout tables for css noted for disability access.

So far I don't know how to replace a table for the menu when I need it to follow down the page the same size as what appears in php content, its also causing a conflict opening submenus in the middle of the vertical menu (and the right border is still not behaving.)

Then in content I used css columns but when I have to use position=absolute, opening the submenu changes the placement of the absolute positioned right column.

Wow do I have a bag of worms.

Warm Regards,
maz

Poster: John
Dated: Thursday October 16 2003 - 20:12:33 BST

Also using all DIVs and pure CSS at http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/test.htm. Not finished yet, and it's not a scroller (others will be), but I guess I'm in for trouble...?

Poster: Maz
Dated: Friday October 17 2003 - 0:23:53 BST

This link may be helpful in understanding why mac ie 5.1.7 is so difficult, its how the browser misrepresents css and some workarounds.

http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/right_pos/index.shtml

Regards
maz

Poster: John
Dated: Friday October 17 2003 - 6:06:47 BST

Make any changes? I just looked at your site under OS X with Safari85.5, IE5.2.3, and NS7.1. All look exactly the same, and function, I think, as you intend. I see no errors.

Poster: Maz
Dated: Friday October 17 2003 - 8:43:12 BST

Nice, mac & windows 98 are messing up, perhaps you didn't refresh, I'm in a bit of a pickle but moving in the right direction.

Andy,

Is there any work around for the right border and scroll as listed on that link above. This is driving me nuts, because I can't take the menu out of a table when it stretches covering the page links and opening scroll bar on the right just like in that picture. If I leave it in a table position=relative followscroll doesn't move, then it throws css absolute positioning off the edge when I open scroll. \

I'm looking for a workaround even if it means throwing in a css fix somehow

Thank you,
maz

Thanks-new release version fixed the problem!!

Poster: hbrand
Dated: Friday October 17 2003 - 22:29:58 BST

Thanks for all your help. Once I properly matched up the release versions, all was fine!!

Robert

http://www.roberthildebrand.com
the finest in landscape photography

Poster: John
Dated: Friday October 17 2003 - 23:16:40 BST

Glad to hear you got it going, Robert. Milonic makes great stuff, it had to be something simple (well - usually!).

Don't forget to keep an eye out for the final, and any more RCs in the meantime, and always replace all 3 files...