Release Candidate 2

Poster: Andy
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 11:04:47 BST

I would consider this release to be production quality, it's already in use on a number of sites and I've had no complaints so far.

Once we get the new site and documentation ready, we will go for launch

http://www.milonic.com/v5_rc2/menu.htm

Cheers
Andy

RC 2 Bug

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:41:27 BST

It seems that more than 2 menus cannot be placed on a page. The third menu does not show up.

Poster: Andy
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:46:21 BST

Hi,

Do you have a demo of this so that we can see it?

It's possibly a config issue but of course I can't rule out that it isn't a bug.

Cheers
Andy

example page.

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:48:10 BST

there should be a menu on top of the building image.
http://www.montreat.edu/new/

Further evidence of the issue

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:50:35 BST

I used the table.htm file included with the rc2 zip and inserted vertical_data.js and horizontal_data.js in different locations. The menu that was placed last does not show.

Thanks for your work on this.

Tom

Poster: Andy
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:52:58 BST

Is it the blue "Popular Pages" menu that fails to appear?

Also, it appears for me when I resize the browser, does it also appear for you?

-- Andy

the blue menu appears correctly for me

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:56:49 BST

There is a menu that should be showing up over the image of the chapel. Actually, the menu sits directly on top of the image (the image is a background image for the table cell). if you look at the source of the page there is a menu called navmenu.js. this is the one that does not appear.

resize makes menu show

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 13:57:56 BST

I just tried the resize and the menu does show. Could that be a bug? If not, what can I do about it?

Poster: Andy
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 14:01:40 BST

It appears that the table is being rendered before the menu. I would consider this a bug.

When I run a copy your site on our local 100m/sec switched network it works fine. Accessing over the Internet is where the problem lies.

Leave it with me and I'll see what I can do

Cheers
Andy

Poster: Andy
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 14:31:24 BST

Right, I've figured out what the problem is.

The problem is the position of your style declarations.

These are placed after a menu has been rendered and I would have though that this method was not possible. Just shows how good this new menu is. It's almost rock solid

Anyway, standard practice has always been to declare your styles, then declare your menus. What you are doing is declaring a style, then some menus, another style, more menus, another style and then some more menus. This as I say, shouldn't be possible but it is working, albeit buggy.

The work around is to declare all your styles in the script-startNew.js file then you are free to declare your menus as you see fit. This method does work and it works quite well.

My problem now is trying to decide if this is indeed a bug or if it's just an inadequacy of the menu system.

It's certainly not a show-stopper so I'm happier than I was a few minutes ago but I'm in a dilema as to whether this needs fixing or not?

What do you guys think?

Cheers
Andy

styles

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 14:36:35 BST

Thanks, I had it that way with version 3. I didn't think about it the same way in 5. I'll try it and let you know the results.

did not fix

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 14:42:16 BST

I have adjusted the scripts as suggested and the menu still only shows upon resizing page. Any other suggestions?

4.0 1.13 beta works properly

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Wednesday July 9 2003 - 15:19:18 BST

I've gone back to 1.13 version of the beta and the page loads correctly. Hope this helps in some way.

Poster: Hergio
Dated: Thursday July 10 2003 - 15:26:08 BST

I am running IE 6.0 on a Win2000 machine and the menu loads fine. I am guessing its because you went back to the other menu version, duh!

But I am curious to know why you don't put the startNew and the popular menus together. You can apply totally different styles to each menu so they render differently using v5.

reply to Hergio

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Thursday July 10 2003 - 16:05:42 BST

I had the menus separate because of alignment issues originally and just haven't put them together. I might do that now.

Update on menu issues

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 14:22:42 BST

For some reason now the beta is not appearing on the page until after a refresh. Twill posted a similar problem with RC2 about getting multiple tables to appear when embedded in tables.

EDIT>Oops! I somehow had the wrong version (RC2) back in the directory. I changed back to beta 1.13 and all works again. Sorry for the mixup.

Poster: Andy
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 15:02:33 BST

I've just had a thought and I think I know what it might be.

In the file milonic_src.js for RC2 there is a variable called "_mDepth" this is set to 1 by default, try changing it to 2 and then 3 and see if the same number of menus appear for the value you try for.

Let me know if it helps

Cheers
Andy

_mdepth

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 15:41:58 BST

Andy,

I tried your suggestion. It did not correct the problem.

Thanks,

Tom

Poster: Andy
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 16:37:17 BST

Right, I've added a little coding to the menu to fix this problem.

I've posted a demo of your site to http://www.milonic.co.uk/tests/mont.htm

The only file you need to change is http://www.milonic.co.uk/tests/mmenudom.js

I've also notices an issue with Netscape 7 but if you set the itemwidth for the navmenu in navmenu.js to 145 it helps fix it.

Let me know if this helps.

Cheers
Andy

Thanks, that works great for IE

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 17:02:35 BST

Now problem with Netscape. After viewing one menu, rolling over anothe menu causes menus at top to reorder and/or duplicate themselves out to the right.

Poster: toasterhead2k
Dated: Friday July 11 2003 - 17:17:27 BST

Just wanted to shout out a huge thank you for the new menu! The new format for the array files is much more intuitive and easier to work with. The menu looks great and functions beautifully. Well done!

Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday July 17 2003 - 9:41:21 BST

I think we found the problem with Netscape 7.0

RC3 has just been released to http://www.milonic.com/v5_rc3/menu.htm

Cheers
Andy

Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday July 17 2003 - 12:08:55 BST

Just released RC3 http://www.milonic.com/v5_rc3/menu.htm

Be interested to know if the bug has gone.

Cheers
Andy

Netscape 7

Poster: tommcmur
Dated: Thursday July 17 2003 - 13:24:54 BST

RC3 has same results as RC2 with Netscape7. Then menus keep duplicating and reordering.

Thanks,

Tom

Poster: Andy
Dated: Thursday July 17 2003 - 15:08:26 BST

Try it now.

You only need to change http://www.milonic.com/v5_rc3/mmenudom.js


-- Andy